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first time here, you are very clear, WHO HAS THE BULLET?
Sound analysis shows shot came from ground level, not roof top, 70-90 meters away, not 150-200. Tyler is a patsy. https://www.youtube.com/live/Dlt20wm1AEw?si=reenoFhG3iGK9fcJ
Here’s what credible reporting (as of Sep 26, 2025) establishes—and what no one has confirmed publicly yet:
If/when the Medical Examiner or treating hospital releases findings, those would answer the key questions (structures injured, ROSC status, interventions, times).
To recap: Here’s what credible reporting (as of Sep 17, 2025) establishes—and what no one has confirmed publicly yet:
Injury & mechanism: Kirk was struck by a single rifle round to the neck fired from a rooftop during a UVU event, and he later died. Multiple outlets specify a single neck shot from distance.
Transport & pronouncement: He was transported to a local hospital and pronounced dead there. Several timelines note Timpanogos Regional/“local hospital” and that he was transported in critical condition before being pronounced. No outlet has published a line-by-line clinical timeline.
Official briefings so far: Updates have come from law enforcement and prosecutors (Utah County Attorney pressers), not from treating clinicians. Those briefings focused on the investigation/charges (aggravated murder; prosecutors say they’ll seek the death penalty).
Detailed medical findings: There’s no medical press conference or published hospital/ME report detailing specific structures injured (e.g., carotid, jugular, trachea, spinal cord), resuscitation steps, or exact vital signs upon arrival. Current coverage does not say whether he arrived with organized vital signs or only agonal/absent signs. (Press briefings available are prosecutorial/law-enforcement, not clinical.)
Autopsy specifics: Media note that an autopsy is expected, but no official autopsy detail (beyond “neck gunshot” and homicide manner of death) has been released publicly.
EMS response & survivability (what the record supports vs. speculation)
Scene-to-hospital window: Public timelines show rapid scene chaos, a single shot from distance, and rapid response; however, precise EMS sequencing (on-scene interventions vs. “scoop and run,” airway control, hemorrhage control, timeline to hospital doors) hasn’t been formally published.
Would EMS have changed the outcome? With only the confirmed fact of a single high-energy neck GSW, survivability hinges on which structures were hit and time to definitive airway/hemorrhage control. Because officials haven’t released clinical detail, any claim that EMS “could” or “could not” have saved him is speculative in the public record. (Media focus so far has been on the shooter, evidence, and charges.)
9/25/25 Update
Surgeon / spokesperson claims about bullet lodging
Miscellaneous comments & rumors
Status of public reporting / lack thereof
Witness / security team claims of “rushing to hospital”
Whether Kirk ever had spontaneous vital signs (pulse, blood pressure, breathing) upon EMS or hospital arrival.
Whether reflexes (pupil response, gag, motor response) were preserved or lost.
Which anatomical structures were injured (e.g. carotid artery, jugular vein, trachea, spinal cord, vertebral structures) in confirmed medical documentation.
The exact path / trajectory of the bullet (entrance, possible exit, angle) in forensically validated medical reporting.
Whether prehospital EMS care (e.g. advanced airway, hemorrhage control, field resuscitation) would have been capable of changing outcome, in this particular case.
Whether the wound was medically survivable under best-case response conditions. That kind of determination requires full clinical context (timing, injuries, interventions) which is not publicly available.
Given what is publicly claimed (especially the “bullet lodged beneath skin” story) plus general medical trauma principles:
| Claim / Report | Medical Plausibility / Caveats |
|---|---|
| Bullet did not exit, lodged just beneath skin | It is possible for a projectile to be retained internally if bone or dense tissue deflects or stops it. But media claims are not medically verified — could be exaggerated or selective. |
| Dense bone structure playing protective role | The idea that very healthy bone can deflect or slow a projectile is not inherently impossible. But shooting through soft neck tissues typically offers less barrier than bone — so any claim that bone alone prevented full traversal is speculative without imaging. |
| Security / witnesses rushing in vehicle performing CPR | Eyewitness / participant testimony is suggestive of desperate efforts. But without EMS records, we don’t know whether CPR was successful, continuous, or even medically indicated given injury severity. |
| The wound being survivable in theory | In trauma surgery, neck GSWs can be survivable — especially if major vessels and airway aren’t catastrophically disrupted, and if the patient can reach definitive care quickly with bleeding control. But high-caliber rifle shots to the neck are among the most lethal kinds of gunshot wounds. Without knowing which structures were hit and how fast the response was, one can’t confidently assert survivability in this case. |
first time here, you are very clear, WHO HAS THE BULLET?
Sound analysis shows shot came from ground level, not roof top, 70-90 meters away, not 150-200. Tyler is a patsy. https://www.youtube.com/live/Dlt20wm1AEw?si=reenoFhG3iGK9fcJ
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Depends kn type of bullet FMJ vs hollow point